In the download section is lists 32-bit only. Is this for the Operating System or the version of Office? Will this work on Windows 7 64-bit with Office 2010 32-bit? When will Writing Outliner plug-in be available for 64-bit (OS and Office)?
Thanks,
Don
Hi Don,
Writing Outliner supports 64-bit Windows already, but it doesn't support 64-bit Office yet.
I had a hard time understanding 32 bit Office vs 64 bit Office and 32 bit Windows 7 vs 64 bit Windows 7. I found the following entry from Microsoft TechNet (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee681792.aspx) helpful:
Published: May 12, 2010
Processors that are 64-bit are becoming the standard for systems that range from servers to desktop computers. The 64-bit systems can use more virtual and physical memory than 32-bit systems. This lets users work with much larger data sets than they could previously, and to analyze and solve large computational problems. Microsoft Office 2010 introduces native 64-bit versions of Microsoft Office products to take advantage of this larger capacity. For example, this additional capacity is needed only by those Microsoft Excel users who require Excel spreadsheets that are larger than 2 gigabytes (GB). The 32-bit version of Office 2010 provides the same functionality and is also compatible with 32-bit add-ins. Therefore, the 32-bit version of Office 2010 is installed by default.
Office 2010 also provides support for 32-bit Office 2010 applications that run on 64-bit Windows operating systems by using Windows-32-on-Windows-64 (WOW64). WOW64 is the x86 emulator that enables 32-bit Windows-based applications to run seamlessly on 64-bit Windows systems. Office 2010 lets users continue to use existing Microsoft ActiveX Controls, Component Object Model (COM) add-ins, and Visual Basic for Applications (VBA), which are primarily 32-bit because no 64-bit versions are available yet for many add-ins. Supporting 32-bit Office 2010 applications that run on 64-bit operating systems allows for better compatibility with controls, add-ins, and VBA.
The recommendations for which edition of Office 2010 to install are as follows:
* If users in your organization depend on existing extensions to Office, such as ActiveX controls, third-party add-ins, in-house solutions built on previous versions of Office, or 32-bit versions of programs that interface directly with Office, we recommend that you install 32-bit Office 2010 (the default installation) on computers that are running both 32-bit and 64-bit supported Windows operating systems.
* If some users in your organization are Excel expert users who work with Excel spreadsheets that are larger than 2 gigabytes (GB), they can install the 64-bit edition of Office 2010. In addition, if you have in-house solution developers, we recommend that those developers have access to the 64-bit edition of Office 2010 so that they can test and update your in-house solutions on the 64-bit edition of Office 2010.
Hope this helps,
Bob
Thanks for the link Bob!
Oh, that's annoying. Was just about to download the trial and could already see that this could be a great tool - but then checked this forum and no 64 bit Office support. Any idea when that's coming? For those of us with 64 bit Windows it's a shame not to use software (like Office) which has a version optimised for 64 bit systems - and I do.
Hi CJ,
Sorry, I can't tell an exact time line at this moment.
Not to say that Edwin shouldn't develop a version for 64-bit Office, but very few vendors and developers do at this point. I use many add-ons for Office as well as programs that interoperate with it, and almost every one specifically states that it is not yet compatible with 64-bit Office. It will come, of course, in the fullness of time. It just doesn't seem to be a priority for most developers at this time. (Or for Microsoft, judging by the TechNet article Bob published!)
Best wishes,
David
Hi David,
Actually I agree with CJ, but it's true that most of the office add-ins are not ready for the Office 64-bit. I'm waiting for my development tool vendor to add support for the 64-bit thingies , then I'll be able to make a 64-bit version of Writing Outliner.
Jeez, now, this is an annoying discovery. I finally bought a new computer with plenty on memory, Windows 7 64-bit and MS Office 64-bit - to discover that Writing Outliner doesn't work anymore. I'm actually in the middle of drawing up a new project! Is there anything new on this front? I'm sure that pretty much everybody who buys new computers these days goes 64-bit!
Best,
Andrej
@Andrej,
Sorry, not yet, but the good news is that finally the development tool that's used to develop Writing Outliner supports 64bit development now. Actually you can install Office 32 bit instead on a 64bit Windows.
Your proposal is not that simple, Edwin :-)
Hi Andrej,
I'm sorry, but that's the only one I can provide :/
It's OK, Edwin, I'm not blaming you, you have always clearly stated that your program is for Word 32-bit only, I just never paid attention because I used to have an old machine with Windows and Office XP and it wasn't relevant anyway. I'm just sorry because I really got used to your program for creative work and now after purchasing a new beast with complete 64-bit MS software (which improved everything else) it's a disappointment.
A silly question, since I'm not a programmer - does developing a version compatible with 64-bit Word involve a complete repogramming of Writing Outliner, or is it more or less a matter of compiling? How soon do you think your hitherto very happy clients can expect the 64-bit-compatible version?
Best, Andrej
@Andrej,
It would not be too much work on my side, however, I have to wait for all the 3rd party 'software library' vendors to upgrade their SDK to support 64bit first, before I can start the work for 64bit Office support, hopefully, I expect in half of a year they all will provide new versions of the SDK's that Writing Outliner relies on.
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