Now that you guys have had a first impression of Writing Outliner already, what is the crucial feature that you think Writing Outliner Word Add-in is missing?
You know, your input count!
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So, what's the next important feature you want?
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Posted 3 years ago #
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Printing a project summary including the outline of the project and all titles, tags, status, notes etc. of each document in the outline.
Dominik
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Dominik's idea is quite good. It would be very beneficial.
I would also like to see... although maybe not a top priority... a citation structure that would allow the writer to create footnotes and endnotes across draft files.
Posted 3 years ago # -
I would like to be able to create additional folders inside the particular project. Or to be able to compile only some specific, i.e. specifically marked documents instead of the whole content of existing folders.
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@Dominik,
Maybe this is a dumb question, but I want to know more - what's your purpose of printing such an outline? What do you think of exporting the outline summary to a table in a Word document (the 'compiled output' document) instead?@arehrlich,
I'll open a topic to specifically discuss this feature when the time comes.@Wojciech,
Maybe it's not obvious, but now you can use the search box to filter first then do the compilation against *any* folder at your option. (this is a hidden function which I should make it more obvious ?)Posted 3 years ago # -
@Wojciech,
regarding folders, you must mean the top level folder which are on par with the 'Drafts folder'? Or do you mean creating folders at any level of the project outline?Posted 3 years ago # -
"What do you think of exporting the outline summary to a table in a Word document (the 'compiled output' document) instead?"
Agreed!
Reason for this outline summary: Having an overview of the status of all files, the notes etc. Will be very helpful to plan the work or in meetings.
Dominik
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Thank you for the explanation, Dominik.
Do you think another planed feature also fulfils your needs - the multi-column outline - it will show all the columns of a document: title, status, labels, notes, etc, in a separated tab. You know, I don't want to duplicated and complex function to confuse users.Posted 3 years ago # -
Maybe I have overseen this:
I can move the files in an outline with drag & drop. Additionally, I would like to move a file with shortcuts like Ctrl + DownArrow or Ctrl + UpArrow etc.Dominik
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,Maybe it's not obvious, but now you can use the search box to filter first then do the compilation against *any* folder at your option. (this is a hidden function which I should make it more obvious ?)'
Oh, yes, I would make it more obvious.'regarding folders, you must mean the top level folder which are on par with the 'Drafts folder'? Or do you mean creating folders at any level of the project outline?'
I meant the top level folders, for instance: ToDo, Not Used, TemplatesWojciech
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Hi Wojciech,
1. You are right, I will make it more obvious.
2. OK, I had that ideas already, I just have had a chance to implement it ;) NOw you mentioned it, you added weight to the priority it has ;)Posted 3 years ago # -
Well, confiuration IS a big issue if you have to sit on your work day by day, need to feel free enough to pull your heart and transform it into your text - and therefoore have developed your own favourite very special default-ticks.
i for example like to make all the fonts and symbols in ALL panes as small as possible. which is not the most important thing on earth, but would be nice. same for the way, in which tabs will be handled /some firefox extensions give good examples).
what i mean (sorry my english, im german): dont underestimate the need for "personal comfort" and "feeling home" inside an app - especially when you develop sth. for "Writers", who are often so desperately depending on nothing more important than: that their "precious feelings" would work well, things have to "fit like a glove" because they make their money out of these bloody battle with text text text....
(my heavy discomfort with the stubbornes (feelwise) of WORD was the main reason, why, a few years ago, i walked away from it - to "scrivener" (on MacOSX) - which i so desperately miss in the cold unloveley world of windows xp. hopefully your new addin can help to overcome this for many of us.
so thanks by the way for your wonderful work so far!
Posted 3 years ago # -
Edwin,
"Do you think another planed feature also fulfils your needs - the multi-column outline - it will show all the columns of a document: title, status, labels, notes, etc, in a separated tab. You know, I don't want to duplicated and complex function to confuse users."
I like and support your idea! Further, even it seems to be old school: It should be possible to print the multi-column outline like a document.
Dominik
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@michama,
On the other hand, offering too much options will make the software look complex... The bottom line is, Writing Outliner will offer configurations for things that really need to be configured.@Dominik,
I'm glad that you like it. And regarding your further suggestion for printing the multi-column outline, I think it's same as what we have described above, i.e, exporting it to a table in a Word document instead, what do you think? Anyway, we can further discuss this once the multi-column outline is available.Posted 3 years ago # -
"(...) And regarding your further suggestion for printing the multi-column outline, I think it's same as what we have described above, i.e, exporting it to a table in a Word document instead, what do you think? Anyway, we can further discuss this once the multi-column outline is available."
Yes, it's the same. Having the multi-column outline in a Word document is perfect and printing is then possible anyway.
Thanks!
Dominik
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@Edwin
yes i understand that. its only the question what that is which is "really need"ed. i can only report this from a very personal writer's point of view. but for now you're certainly right.
maybe in a later stage you will have the addin plugin-able? so that (like firefox) people can develop and add what they need by themselves, so that whoever wants more complex options may have them, without overloading the basic structure of the addin or all users.Posted 3 years ago # -
@michama,
I really lie Chrome and firefox and like the pluggable idea of them, but honestly, to implement a pluggable architecture will consume a lot of resources and at this stage I'd rather to keep things simple, the bottom line is, I'll be glad to add (suggested) useful features constantly while keeping the UI as simple and lightweight as possible.Posted 3 years ago # -
I am very impressed with Writing Outliner. I agree that the emphasis should be on keeping the UI clean, simple and usable and the consumption of system resources as lightweight as possible. One feature of Scrivener that I have been intrigued by is the Corkboard. I understand that this may be implemented at a later date, but is not a deal breaker. To me more important ideas is the ability to import documents, images, PDFs, movies, sound files and web pages for doing research.
Just my two cents.
Edwin, thanks for your work on this. I think you're on to something.
Bob
Posted 3 years ago # -
Hi Bob,
I'm glad that you like Writing Outliner Word Add-in and thank you for your kind words.
Corkboard is on the the to do list already ;)
Posted 3 years ago # -
Select a Word style sheet and apply it to all selected documents (or all documents in folder).
Though not really that urgent.
Posted 3 years ago # -
An option to NOT have the name of the document included in the compiled output.
Would also nice if there was away to have headers and footers.Posted 3 years ago # -
Actually, now that I think about, in most cases you probably don't want the name of the file included at the top of the document. Perhaps you should remove the feature altogether?
Posted 3 years ago # -
MuppetGate,
headers and footers are included already with the current version.Posted 3 years ago # -
Mmm. Let me play with that some more. It looked like the headers and footers were stripped out of the compiled output. I'll let you know.
Posted 3 years ago # -
Yep, when you compile the project, the headers and footers are not included in the final output.
Posted 3 years ago # -
Oh, are are right, I'll check this problem.
Posted 3 years ago # -
Another feature that would be nice would be the ability to choose, in the property pane, whether to include the node name as a heading or not in the output.
Posted 3 years ago # -
Yet another nice feature would be to be able to make more than one outline in the same project. That way you can make several documents from the same note database, such as several related articles, and a book.
Posted 3 years ago # -
The option to fix the wideness of the middle (edit) panel. So that the optic of the document you're working on shall not rearrange itself accidentally every time you drag around the window a bit.
Posted 3 years ago # -
@michama,
Not sure if I understand you correctly, but the document editor area should be fixed in width already? Or do you mean in a multi-monitor environment?Posted 3 years ago #
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